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Goku Super Saiyan (Freiza Saga) vs Base Vegeta (Buu Saga)
Topic Started: Aug 12 2011, 07:41 AM (2,394 Views)
GrooseStrikesBack Aug 12 2011, 07:41 AM Post #1
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Who wins. Even though Goku has the advantage, as Super Saiyan, I think Vegeta Owns.
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Nusu Aug 12 2011, 08:48 AM Post #2
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

He ultra owns, I have Vegeta before the Majin Seal roughly on par with Kid Son Gohan from the Cell Games, who was in my view stronger then Android 18 and 17.
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Balthazor Aug 12 2011, 10:45 AM Post #3
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I'm damn serious

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Ravage SSJ Goku gets 1 shoted!
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Daniel Aug 12 2011, 12:32 PM Post #4
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I like Pokémon

 i laughed when i saw this topic,come one man u know that answer vegeta owns.
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+ Clearin Aug 12 2011, 12:46 PM Post #5
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 lol I think (Why should I keep making it sound like opinion when no one else does?) Vegeta gets beaten brutally, pre majin-seal or not.
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Nusu Aug 12 2011, 01:22 PM Post #6
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Amusing. After we saw how Trunks and Son Goten fought against Android 18 with a restricting costume on. How the hell can Vegeta lose?
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+ Clearin Aug 12 2011, 01:25 PM Post #7
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Nusu
Aug 12 2011, 01:22 PM
Amusing. After we saw how Trunks and Son Goten fought against Android 18 with a restricting costume on. How the hell can Vegeta lose?
It has nothing to do with where I placed the boys... It's about my SSj multiplier, and I use the guide-book x50
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Nusu Aug 12 2011, 01:38 PM Post #8
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Even with multiplier Son Goku still dosen't win.

He had a power level of 150,000,000 as Super Saiyajin during the Freeza fight.

Vegeta in base during the Boo Saga is far surpass that if they boy's can fight against 18# like that.
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+ Clearin Aug 12 2011, 01:41 PM Post #9
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 Well I suppose that highly depends on your own power level list, but I don't have any base Saiyans as strong as SSj Goku...except MAYBE at the end of Z

As for Goten and Trunks, well 18 went into that fight expecting it to be a normal human (like she did with Jewel) leaving blocking easy for Trunks, then she steadily got better until she had her power high enough to dodge them and knock them down easily (Then they turn Super Saiyan without getting a hit in).

Of course you're going to disagree with that but you asked me so whatever.
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Saberoph Aug 12 2011, 01:48 PM Post #10
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 Really???
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Vegeta take this pretty easily while in Base. I mean really by the Boo arc EVERYONE surpassed their passed SS selves in Base, and Vegeta was no exception to that. The MSS Training does that, it increases the users SS power which in return increases the users Base power at the same rate b/c SS power is Base power, ignoring that is dismissing what Goku and Gohan did in the ROSAT.
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+ Clearin Aug 12 2011, 01:50 PM Post #11
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The MSS Training does that, it increases the users SS power which in return increases the users Base power at the same rate b/c SS power is Base power, ignoring that is dismissing what Goku and Gohan did in the ROSAT.
Find me the line where Goku or Gohan say that the MSSj training lowers the gap between base and Super Saiyan.
I'm 99.9% sure they never made such a claim.
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Saberoph Aug 12 2011, 01:55 PM Post #12
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 That's not what I said, I said it increases the users Base at the same rate the SS power is increased. Maybe you should read it again. And show me where it's contradicted...I'll be waiting.
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+ Clearin Aug 12 2011, 01:58 PM Post #13
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That's not what I said, I said it increases the users Base at the same rate the SS power is increased. Maybe you should read it again. And show me where it's contradicted...I'll be waiting.
Meh I don't need to, I thought training in SSj would train the base all the same even before MSSj.
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Nusu Aug 12 2011, 02:01 PM Post #14
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Nobody stronger then SSj Son Goku? Lol.

Okay, whatever, I guess that's your view won't argue that.

But at least I want to get my point across.

18# knew from the beginning that 'Mighty Mask' was a threat. Son Goten and Trunks knew they had to be on their guard to win. By your logic, 18# thought that 'Mighty Mask' was not a threat even though, no ordinary human can compete with her speed yet 'Mighty Mask' was able too. She knew that 'Mighty Mask' wasn't child's play. Also, like said Son Goten and Trunks suffered restriction because of their disguise, they weren't able to fight properly.

After their first bout, 18# considered 'Mighty Mask' pretty strong, she wouldn't consider somebody strong when he isn't even stronger then Son Goku as Super Saiyajin from the Namek Saga, but again this is your opinion. She fought stronger ones, she'd know.

I use the 50x multiplier as well, but in my view that isn't possible.
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Saberoph Aug 12 2011, 02:07 PM Post #15
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 I use the X50 Multiplier until the Boo arc, and that's only for Goku and Vegeta then Gohan post Zeta Sword Training then Goten and Trunks post Rosat. The ONLY reason why I do this is because I find there to be too much evidence showing Base Saiyans are well into Artificial Human arc SS levels. However this isn't the place to be debating that.
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Meh I don't need to, I thought training in SSj would train the base all the same even before MSSj.
Uh, that's kinda what I was saying, the MSS Training increases the users Base at the same rate as the SS power.
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